You’re one of the most, if not the most, sourced immigration reporters in Washington. Are you hearing from anyone on the inside who’s uncomfortable with what they’re seeing, rattled by what they’re seeing thus far. Definitely, it feels like for folks that I’ve talked to, a sense of, What’s next? What else are we going to be asked to do? What else are we going to be seeing on the news and then confronted with in the government? And one thing that’s much different this time, I would say as well, is the general attack on federal employees is also on D.H.S. This is something that the D.H.S. secretary has talked about repeatedly, that they will root out leaks. And one way to do that is to polygraph people. That didn’t happen in the first Trump administration. And at the same time, there’s a real fear around losing their jobs. So you have a really bad culture right now at the department — people feeling uneasy on all levels. Is that culture, that same sort of anxious vibe, inside? Is that shared by some of the president’s economic advisers, or is it just full loyalty this time around? Yeah, no one who’s working for Donald Trump at this point is like, Oh you know what? Maybe we could talk him out of this tariff thing. It’s like, no, no, that ship has sailed. So it’s arguments that are about the level of the tariffs, the breadth of the tariffs, the targeting, et cetera. No one is saying, Sir, we shouldn’t do tariffs. Jonathan, I know one thing you’ve been tracking, too, is the response from the business community when it comes to these tariffs, whether it’s some private law firms, the private sector, too. What’s the business community’s reaction been so far to this saga? Well I mean, they hate the tariffs, of course. But if you’re a C.E.O. with any perception or intelligence, you realize that attacking Donald Trump publicly, while it might be principled, is probably not going to get you a good outcome. And what we’ve seen taking setting tariffs aside for a second, this parade of business people offering him money — Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg — it’s pretty clear that they’re all worried about him targeting them. And the Trump people weaponized this very effectively. They monetize it, actually. It’s not just that Trump collects the million-dollar check for his inauguration. His people will then hit them up again, phone call and say, Hey, it’d be real nice if you gave us $10 million for our PAC. I mean, the law firms, it’s just brazen. And Trump, I mean, Trump’s very proud of it, which is basically: We are going to go after you unless you promise us the number keeps going up. I think it’s now like $100 million, $125 million worth of pro bono work to support our causes, right. I mean, this is astonishing.
